Dark Day

[R13]

If he eliminates the patriot act he will be solidifying my vote for him.

[imported_Counts]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: R13</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If he eliminates the patriot act he will be solidifying my vote for him. </div></div>

I do not see it being repealed once the Gov gets that kind of power they will hardly ever give it up

[BlueWahooChambordDevil]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: R13</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If he eliminates the patriot act he will be solidifying my vote for him. </div></div>
and thatll also invite attacks here because itll take away the biggest intelligence feature that has helped us stop a few attacks already

[R13]

Nope, but itll give me some of my rights back. And name some, I am willing to bet that even if you managed to..they are trumped up BS that he released to make the US think it was a good idea.

[BlueWahooChambordDevil]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: R13</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Nope, but itll give me some of my rights back. And name some, I am willing to bet that even if you managed to..they are trumped up BS that he released to make the US think it was a good idea. </div></div>
so ill ask again......what rights have you personally been stripped of because of the patriot act?

since you never answered last time

[R13]

I answered, but you ignored it. But here I go again, try to pay attention this time.

Searches through which law enforcement officers search a home or business without the owner's or the occupant's permission or knowledge; the expanded use of National Security Letters, which allows the FBI to search telephone, email and financial records without a court order; and the expanded access of law enforcement agencies to business records, including library and financial records.

They couldnt do that before. And it is a lot worse for immigrants who were detained without one reason to do so.

[TheBeast]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: R13</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> the expanded use of National Security Letters, which allows the FBI to search telephone, email and financial records without a court order; and the expanded access of law enforcement agencies to business records, including library and financial records.</div></div>

And what are you doing to make them believe you need to be investigated thusly?


<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Searches through which law enforcement officers search a home or business without the owner's or the occupant's permission or knowledge;</div></div>


They have allways been able to do that. All they need to do is bring along a game warden who has allways had the right to search and come in a home without permission.

[R13]

Beside the point, some of you dont own an uzi but said taking them away is stripping your rights. And if they could, why put it in there?

[1inStripes]

The CIA has done wiretapping and such for years. I don't have anything to be worried about so it hasn't bothered me personally. Like Beast said, a game warden (or Conservational Police I believe they are now called in VA) could always search without warrant, but probable cause.

[sup-rbeast]

The point is that the Patriot Act gave the government wide sweeping powers to invade your privacy LEGALLY. It may not mean much to any of ya now, but the fact of the matter is that all the gov. has to do is accuse you of a crime to hold you indefinately without charges or a trial. For all of y'all that whine about the 2nd Amendment and support the Patriot Act...IMO that is blind hypocracy.